Fashion question

Ok people, a serious question.

Does the fact I havepassed 40 mean I need to adjust my on course attire to stay in keeping with my age? The reason I ask is becausemy game is approaching a level where I will gain entry to higher quality am tourneys where things like clothing get noticed. Im not a super flashy dresser (no white belts or bright orange outfits), but I do like athletic fit "young" brands like sligo and oakley. Im younger looking than my age and thanks to our obesity epedemic probably in the shape of an average 30yo, and I swing and hit the ball as well as a 20 something, but am wondering if I should accept old age and start wearing beige slacks, Greg Norman/Ashworth cotton pastels and saddle shoes. At my home club Im a gun and get away with wearing whatever the hell I want, but I dont want to be in big tourneys and attract attention as one of those old guys who should dress their age.

Flame away people, I will take on any criticism thoughtfully.

Being over 40, you don't have to give a shit what other people think. Dress like you want.

You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

Player wrote:Ok people, a serious question.

Does the fact I havepassed 40 mean I need to adjust my on course attire to stay in keeping with my age? The reason I ask is becausemy game is approaching a level where I will gain entry to higher quality am tourneys where things like clothing get noticed. Im not a super flashy dresser (no white belts or bright orange outfits), but I do like athletic fit "young" brands like sligo and oakley. Im younger looking than my age and thanks to our obesity epedemic probably in the shape of an average 30yo, and I swing and hit the ball as well as a 20 something, but am wondering if I should accept old age and start wearing beige slacks, Greg Norman/Ashworth cotton pastels and saddle shoes. At my home club Im a gun and get away with wearing whatever the hell I want, but I dont want to be in big tourneys and attract attention as one of those old guys who should dress their age.

Flame away people, I will take on any criticism thoughtfully.

Most guys in their 40's look appropriate if they are wearing the latest style shirts from Nike, Oakley, Puma, etc. However, I'd skip the belt buckles and bucket hats. I don't think it's necessary to start wearing Dockers and cotton shirts with argyle sweaters. You probably look silly trying to play this game anyway.

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

Dude,



I dress like a bum....LOL.

at 6'6" 280 I dont get anything confortable to wear. My shirts cant be tucked in as when I swing my shirt would be completely out again. I cant find size 13UK shoes at our stores and dont even see the option on our local online golfshops...My current right hand shoe is a talking muppet almost.

But I feel comfortable and that's what matter. When Push comes to shove i will rather dress like a scott when playing golf.Wonder what the people would say then swinging at 120mph with a dress on..lol

Look good, feel good, feel good, play good.
I can get pretty ridiculous in the comfortable surroundings of the SPCC, but when playing in outside tournaments or as guests at other clubs, I am more conservative.
I've got a weekend Chicago golf trip coming up where I'll be playing Medinah, Butler National, and Chicago CC. I may have to leave the white belt and skin tight Puma gear at home.

I can tell you with no uncertainty that you are definitely not styling over 40 unless you are wearing a pair of golf sandals.

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

Fluffy wrote:Dude,



I dress like a bum....LOL.

at 6'6" 280 I dont get anything confortable to wear. My shirts cant be tucked in as when I swing my shirt would be completely out again. I cant find size 13UK shoes at our stores and dont even see the option on our local online golfshops...My current right hand shoe is a talking muppet almost.

But I feel comfortable and that's what matter. When Push comes to shove i will rather dress like a scott when playing golf.Wonder what the people would say then swinging at 120mph with a dress on..lol

I have the opposite problem as you with many large shirts. I'm broad shouldered with a short waist. Shirts seem to be getting longer and longer due to the obesity problem. Some of the larges that fit me in the shoulders almost touch my knees.

I'm in my mid 60's and wear the same clothes to play golf as I did in my 20's. Khaki slacks in tan or light green and an all cotton polo shirt devoid of logos, especially for those of golf equipment manufacturers. Black golf shoes and either tan or black socks. Black leather belt. Baseball style cap with the brim facing forward with no commercial logos on it. Maybe a SEAL emblem or one of my Camp David ballcaps or one of my favorites given to me by my father in law (RIP) after a trip to the old country. It is a black cap with tan brim with "Black Bush" on the crown. I love to wear it when I know black people will be around and the first thing they think of is George W. Bush and that, coupled with "Black", causes them to consider the cap as an affront to their soulfullness. Now the real Irish realize that the cap came from the Bushmills whiskey distillery and that Black Bushmills--"Black Bush"-- is the premium product of the company. As far as facial hair, I've been clean shaven for ever and a day due to my white collar working life. I dress for the golf course in a fashion similar to how I dress for work. After all, getting paid for the enterprise is the goal.

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

Mongrel wrote:I'm in my mid 60's and wear the same clothes to play golf as I did in my 20's. Khaki slacks in tan or light green and an all cotton polo shirt devoid of logos, especially for those of golf equipment manufacturers. Black golf shoes and either tan or black socks. Black leather belt. Baseball style cap with the brim facing forward with no commercial logos on it. Maybe a SEAL emblem or one of my Camp David ballcaps or one of my favorites given to me by my father in law (RIP) after a trip to the old country. It is a black cap with tan brim with "Black Bush" on the crown. I love to wear it when I know black people will be around and the first thing they think of is George W. Bush and that, coupled with "Black", causes them to consider the cap as an affront to their soulfullness. Now the real Irish realize that the cap came from the Bushmills whiskey distillery and that Black Bushmills--"Black Bush"-- is the premium product of the company. As far as facial hair, I've been clean shaven for ever and a day due to my white collar working life. I dress for the golf course in a fashion similar to how I dress for work. After all, getting paid for the enterprise is the goal.

I'm on an Irish whiskey thing these days. Straight up with a splash or two it's great to sip on although the penalty for doing it too frequently is you burn your insides for a couple of days. Makes me feel like I'm still married.

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

I can usually muster up the courage to do just about anything that is painful/uncomfortable if it is over quickly. I had to go face-first under my front porch to retrieve a goddamn cat and it was a truly disgusting experience. Dark, damp, dirty, things crawling all over me, etc.
The one thing I have an irrational fear about is heights for other people. I am OK with it when it's me, but I flip out when my daughter gets to close to the edge of something, even when there are restraints. There is an old stone building at a park near my house where you can walk up steps to get on the top. There is a shortish metal fence around the edge that I could step over, but it's still probably a few feet tall. My daughter would have to gain 20 inches on her vertical jump to get over that thing, but it freaks me out when she gets near the railing.

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Poe4soul wrote:

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Yeah I did consider not bolding or editing the p#ssy part but I believe in freedom of speech and editing the post of our esteemed TRG just wouldn't have been right.

I'm sure once you read the whole post your comprehension skills would have eventually allayed your fears.

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Yeah I did consider not bolding or editing the p#ssy part but I believe in freedom of speech and editing the post of our esteemed TRG just wouldn't have been right.

I'm sure once you read the whole post your comprehension skills would have eventually allayed your fears.

Yes, I did but you have to brace yourself for the barely imaginable here at GR the Shack. I was clenching my checks for you though just in case it went the way of GA and his old man as Lyleg used to suggest.

Poe4soul wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Most trades here are more expensive than elsewhere in the west because Jose generally doesn't feel comfortble above 6,000 feet. So a lot of the work gets done by young guys who are looking to earn enough money to support their ski habit. So the $4,000 would probably become $8k up here instead of $2k. BTW, hopefully one of the walls will replace that chain link fence you have. I know it's Portland but those should be reserved for schools and prisons.

Horseballs wrote:I can usually muster up the courage to do just about anything that is painful/uncomfortable if it is over quickly. I had to go face-first under my front porch to retrieve a goddamn cat and it was a truly disgusting experience. Dark, damp, dirty, things crawling all over me, etc.
The one thing I have an irrational fear about is heights for other people. I am OK with it when it's me, but I flip out when my daughter gets to close to the edge of something, even when there are restraints. There is an old stone building at a park near my house where you can walk up steps to get on the top. There is a shortish metal fence around the edge that I could step over, but it's still probably a few feet tall. My daughter would have to gain 20 inches on her vertical jump to get over that thing, but it freaks me out when she gets near the railing.

Parents with such strong instincts at this stage of their child's development are typically the ones seen at youth soccer and baseball games yelling, fighting, berating officials and screaming at their kids. It's simply a different manifestation of the same characteristic. You have to trust me on this, having been through the evolution of parenting through the various stages of childhood. Also, in OC, I lived 300 yards from a baseball/soccer field. At times the yelling would make my hair stand up.

So be on guard and it would be best if you simply don't go to any of the games.

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Most trades here are more expensive than elsewhere in the west because Jose generally doesn't feel comfortble above 6,000 feet. So a lot of the work gets done by young guys who are looking to earn enough money to support their ski habit. So the $4,000 would probably become $8k up here instead of $2k. BTW, hopefully one of the walls will replace that chain link fence you have. I know it's Portland but those should be reserved for schools and prisons.

Interesting about the 6k comment. There are plenty of beaners in NM and CO. Both of those states have significant areas above 6K. I'd bet the beaners are afraid of the mormons. And BTW, don't the mormons work their kids like rented mules?

Not sure about the chainlink fence. I'd rather have no fences but we have 2 dogs and 5 chickens on one side of the fence and coyotes on the other side. Besides, dogs don't do too well with wood fences. They bark at things they can't see. It's their nature. The only other option is a rail fence and I'm not too keen on spending that coin on the back yard. We'll see and I agree with your opinion but....

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Most trades here are more expensive than elsewhere in the west because Jose generally doesn't feel comfortble above 6,000 feet. So a lot of the work gets done by young guys who are looking to earn enough money to support their ski habit. So the $4,000 would probably become $8k up here instead of $2k. BTW, hopefully one of the walls will replace that chain link fence you have. I know it's Portland but those should be reserved for schools and prisons.

Interesting about the 6k comment. There are plenty of beaners in NM and CO. Both of those states have significant areas above 6K. I'd bet the beaners are afraid of the mormons. And BTW, don't the mormons work their kids like rented mules?

Not sure about the chainlink fence. I'd rather have no fences but we have 2 dogs and 5 chickens on one side of the fence and coyotes on the other side. Besides, dogs don't do too well with wood fences. They bark at things they can't see. It's their nature. The only other option is a rail fence and I'm not too keen on spending that coin on the back yard. We'll see and I agree with your opinion but....

Living in the country for practically all of my life, if you need a fence to keep a dog in you shouldn't have one (a dog). Otherwise train him or get an invisible fence or a shock collar. Its an animal so if he gets enough jolts often enough he will learn.

As I've stated before, women,kids and dogs all get trained the same way. They shit on the floor, rub their noses in it and toss em out the door.

jt1135 wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Poe4soul wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:

Player wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:You're in your forties man!!! The prime of life. Dress in the style that you so choose. Sartorial splendour is not restricted to certain age groups. And remember you want to dress sharp so that you will give the impression of being 'together'. This is especially true in matchplay but can't hurt in strokeplay. Remember to also be clean shaven.

As long as you're not dressing like a young Ricky Fowler wannabe you can't go wrong dressing sharp.

One thing I have noted on tour is the conservatism of facial hair. Nearly every pro is clean shaven. You dont see many beardies out on tour. Even the porno moustache seems confined to the old tour, and even there you see long time wearers like Pavin clean shaven. Id like to see a tour player with a full on grizzly adams beard out on tour, the clean shaven short back and sides is so yesterday. Just look how cool the guys in the current forum photo look.

As far as the porn mustache is concerned, Harry Rheems lived here in Park City for many years and was politically active. His house is next to where Stein Erickson still lives. Heart stopping views of Thaynes Canyon out the back and the resorts behind that. I almost bought on their street but realized p#ssy probably stopped showing up long ago.

HB is right. With your friends and normal circle, almost anything goes. At 40 and not being typically American disgustingly obese you still have a long youthful run ahead of you. With smart attire comes power, money and respect. Anyone lacking in these areas should check their wardrobe first.

I only occasionally speak to fat people. It's generally unnecessary. Today I had no choice because the engineer referred to me to check my foundation was a hippo. Unfortunately for him his job was to get through the tiny hatch into the crawl space, through the tinier holes between sub crawl spaces and then along the gravel for 40 feet with maybe two feet of clearance. I've done it several times and despite my svelteness almost got stuck along the way. I seriously don't know how he was able to do it. His mother had an easier time getting him through her vagina.

While he was down there I wondered if he got stuck whether they'd have to cut through floor joists to get him out. You never want to do that. Next time I'm checking % body fat before I let someone under my house.

Interesting on the fat engineer. I just got a safety discussion on confined spaces which it sounds like your crawl space would classify as a confined space. It is now a national Emergency Response rule to not enter confined spaces. If you get stuck I guess they just gaff you out. Basically, the safety discussion was that you have to be prepared for self rescue because the 911 call will just get you last rights.

I forced myself to go down there several times during purchase inspection and to confirm punch list completion. But with the exception of my dick in a tight p#ssy, I hate confined spaces and had no future plans to crawl under my house. Had this guy expired I'd have faced the impossible choice of removing him by cutting joists and losing structural integrity or suffering through the stench of rotting human flesh for over a month. Hmmm...what would I do? I guesss it wouldn't be so bad to stay with friends for a month. Maybe two months, that guy was some mass of protoplasm.

I'm the same. I helped my Dad install insulation in the ceiling many years ago when I was a young man. Now I've been drafted in to help install a ventilation unit in the house which will involve crawling around in the ceiling space, making sure to keep my weight on the joists whilst avoiding falling through the gib, banging my head or putting my back out from twisting and contorting in that awkward crawl space. Last time up there was to clean out dead birds and their nests which was a pretty awkward and unpleasant task. Can't say I'm looking forward to this but it's gotta be done. Dad's too old to get up there now so it's the least I can do.

You need some of our undocumented workers NZ. I just go a bid for painting my house from a legit company and it came in just shy of $4k. I saw a crew up around the corner of my house finishing a paint job, nice looking one at that, and got them to bid on the work. Typical arrangement, the owner/old dude wasn't too good on his english so he had a younger kid in his 20's translate. The total cost for the second bid was exactly $2k plus I buy the paint and prep supplies. I struggling with the idea but $2k in the pocket is significant. Now I'm on a mission to find some hard hardscaper to build me a couple of walls.

BTW - when I read the bolded quote then your response started with your dad, I got some Lyleg and GA flashbacks. I was a little nervous reading the rest.

Most trades here are more expensive than elsewhere in the west because Jose generally doesn't feel comfortble above 6,000 feet. So a lot of the work gets done by young guys who are looking to earn enough money to support their ski habit. So the $4,000 would probably become $8k up here instead of $2k. BTW, hopefully one of the walls will replace that chain link fence you have. I know it's Portland but those should be reserved for schools and prisons.

Interesting about the 6k comment. There are plenty of beaners in NM and CO. Both of those states have significant areas above 6K. I'd bet the beaners are afraid of the mormons. And BTW, don't the mormons work their kids like rented mules?

Not sure about the chainlink fence. I'd rather have no fences but we have 2 dogs and 5 chickens on one side of the fence and coyotes on the other side. Besides, dogs don't do too well with wood fences. They bark at things they can't see. It's their nature. The only other option is a rail fence and I'm not too keen on spending that coin on the back yard. We'll see and I agree with your opinion but....

Living in the country for practically all of my life, if you need a fence to keep a dog in you shouldn't have one (a dog). Otherwise train him or get an invisible fence or a shock collar. Its an animal so if he gets enough jolts often enough he will learn.

I've lived in the country too and what you are saying doesn't equate. My dog territory extends well beyond my property. She thinks the street in front of my house and some of the woods behind the house is hers. In the country our dogs were happy with the limits of their yard. Thus the need for the fence.

When I lived in the country, if I saw a coyote driving down the road in the field and slowed the car down it ran even it was 500 yards away because it might get shot. In the city a coyote stares at me from 100' with no fear.

So, big fucking deal. I've done both. I've raised enough dogs to know that you're a talking out your ass. Raise a Spitz bread dog and try to contain them. Our Akita would run for 24-48 hours before she would come home. Our Akita/ German Shepard dog would run for about 100 yards and come back home. You're full of shit.