So who is still around from the GR days?

I have been without golf in my life for some time now (kids),

BUT NOW IM BACK BABY!!!!

is Edgey still about?, i reckon i have the European GR trophy in my midst.

From the look of it, there arent too many people on here.

would be good to hear back.

BURNDOG

Not many left. Just about all of us Yanks.

Shame (not that there is just yanks), it used to get pretty heated/comical on GR.

you still playing mongrel?

Still playing. This past season I re-tooled the bag including my first adjustable driver. Only played 17 rounds and the index dropped from just under 16 to a 12.4. All those rounds were with my travelling club under USGA rules. No casual rounds. And I had my first hole-in-one in September having played my first golf hole in 1955. You get some golf in now around the children?

I'm still around (Nifty Niblick II, the brother) but spinal stenosis has ended my golf days.

And now, suddenly, I live under fascism, so I'm glad to have a lot more yesterdays than tomorrows.

I hear that both Costco and Walmart are going to stock the shelves with DIY Assisted Suicide Kits imported, obviously, from China. $19.95 includes a free 8 x 10 six-mil poly tarp with the trademark "I'm With Her" logo on both sides. Order on-line now and get quantity discounts for the whole family or even the whole floor in your dormitory.

So trom v, I guess you agree with the people (who by the way are pretty much all college students who have had everything handed to em and never had to to anything themselves) are protesting the election you are good with that?

IMHO, they are just climbing on the backs of people who actually did things for this country and just squatting and shitting on their backs. Sore fucking losers!

jt1135 wrote:So trom v, I guess you agree with the people (who by the way are pretty much all college students who have had everything handed to em and never had to to anything themselves) are protesting the election you are good with that?

IMHO, they are just climbing on the backs of people who actually did things for this country and just squatting and shitting on their backs.  Sore fucking losers!

Yeah it pretty funny. All those college kids who are doing it for free bowing to the peer pressure generated by a smaller number of agitators who answered Craigslist ads for $15/hour protest leader jobs. The same grungy kids whose parents probably took out home equity loans to fund their studies at worthless colleges that produce in four years what public schools like the one I went to produced in twelve years. Of course most of their parents voted for Trump.

Now they are all bitching about the American presidential election process. I bet lots of them are stupid enough to pay some bucks for their online Bachelor of Science in Social Justice from The Electoral College. I'll post the link when I get the website up and running. There's a small window but maybe I can make enough bucks to retire and disappear. Mongrel out.

First of all, I'm 70 and I'm with those college kids.

We are a very polarized country. We are, in fact, a nation of factions who viscerally hate one another.

What must be emphasized here are not the "polls" but rather the "poles."

In a polarized nation, there is no relevant center. That what poles mean. The choice is between socialism and fascism. That's all that exists.

Sanders vs. Trump would have given us that choice between socialism and fascism, and I'm certain that socialism would have won.

Clinton and Trump gave us the choice between essentially nothing and fascism, and fascism won.

Clinton went after the irrelevant center, and the DNC which fixed the primaries in her favor, turned the United States over to fascism in the process.

Rust belt Democrats were completely ignored by the centrist Democratic faction. The left wanted to give them what they needed. The center gave them double talk and subsequently got what they deserved. So the rust belt voted fascist out of desperation.

Now they and all other Trump supporters will come to realize what they did. They reversed the results of World War II. That's simply fact.

But political ideology aside, Trump will be the head of state as well as the head of government. And he's a crude vulgarian. We will all be represented by a crude vulgarian who essential will be the one telling the world what WE are.

In addition to loathing W because of his policies, I also despised him because he presented virtual illiteracy to the world as the face of America. W was a refined prince next to Trump, however. The face of America will be not only a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe, a racketeer, a con man, an egomaniac, and a Putin pawn--he will be a complete clown. My children acted with more class when they were five. But Trump supporters don't care--they're too shameless to care. He said that he loved the undereducated, and the undereducated promptly offered him their collective ass.

Because of my age, Trump could very will be my last president. I may not live to see whether or not the republic recovers or goes swirling down history's toilet. And only the red states deserve that. New England, New York, and the West Coast should promptly leave the US and become part of Canada. Let what remains of the US be a haven for two digit IQs.

Bernie sold out cheap. A $600,000 house fronting on some lake in terminal moraine territory. Golden Pond? Loon Lake?

Six hundred grand is nothing in New England.  I'm a proletarian, flat out, and I got six hundred grand for the last shack that I sold.  And then it cost me that to buy something else.

It would probably seem like a lot in flyover country, however, and wrong impressions would be easily made.  

You're a coastal guy, Mongrel. You know what property costs near the oceans.

We're in serious trouble.

We're a fucking banana republic now.

I've spent the last fifteen months following politics to the virtual exclusion of everything else.  
I watched and listened to everything.  
One would have to do that in order to get a grasp on what's been occurring.

It's going to be very bad for most people.
Especially for the working class people who supported Trump because they've now become pariahs to the people who've actually been trying to help them.  

Trump is going to fold to the Paul Ryan agenda and third world status will be America's reward. And working class Republican voters will deserve every inch of that shaft tearing up their rectums.  The rest of us are just collateral damage.

What pissed alot of people off in my area is when people like Garrison Keiller called most of the rural people uneducated dumb asses. Isn't education mandatory in this country? Like most of elite liberals he assumes that because somebody that didn't go to college (which everybody knows is the cradle of liberalism) that they are dumber than a door knob. You continued that assumption with your use of the fly over country quote. A college education isn't a guarantee for common sense. as a matter of fact in my experience over my sixty years of life it seems the other way around. The more education some people get the dumber they are.

jt1135 wrote: A college education isn't a guarantee for common sense. as a matter of fact in my experience over my sixty years of life it seems the other way around.

Four year college is only one way of becoming educated--I admit that out front, and so do most liberals--but useful education of some kind is absolutely essential--and it can't be accomplished in 12 years nor by the age of 18. Skilled trades are essential--more essential than most things--and nobody is a skilled tradesman out of high school.  What's more, good sense is anything but "common."

Further, you're right about my using a condescending term like "flyover country." I apologize for that.  What is true, however, is that the further from a coast that one lives, the more one is isolated from a cosmopolitan world view.  Coastal people tend to be less xenophobic and think of themselves more as citizens of the world.  We're also substantially less religious as a whole, so we may be more difficult with whom to relate for Kansans and other citizens of the interior.  On the other hand, we're also not the undisciplined libertines that your Evangelical preachers like to present us as.  We take care of each other too.  

But here's the thing.  The American electorate just reversed the result of World War II.  There is no other way to put it.  Trump is a fascist, and working with a Ryan house and a McConnell senate, there is no way that the working class didn't just send itself to hell.

You know those Wall Street and Ivy League elitists that you so disdain?  They're the ones who will be able to afford and survive the hell that's coming.  I won't. You won't.  The only difference is that I don't have to live with having helped to precipitate it.

Was an article in the local newspaper about the county I live in. This year was only the fourth time since minnesota became a state that the county went republican. Doesn't really show how strong trump was but shows how weak Hillary was. As has been stated before, "These are the best two that we have?"

Wow Burndog wanted to find out who's still around from GR and it turns into a US political thread that Larryrsf would have been proud of.

I'm still playing and with summer here getting out and about more.

Suffice to say the majority of us down under were shocked by Trumps win and we watch with bated breath like watching a car crash unfold before your eyes.

Kiwigolfer wrote:Wow Burndog wanted to find out who's still around from GR and it turns into a US political thread that Larryrsf would have been proud of.

I'm still playing and with summer here getting out and about more.

Suffice to say the majority of us down under were shocked by Trumps win and we watch with bated breath like watching a car crash unfold before your eyes.

Played the last round Nov 15th. Next day a blizzard hit. No more golf till spring.

Being from the state who elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura governer, not new to see somebody that is not a career politician be the chief for awhile. After its all said and done ain't a fuckin thing gonna change.

jt1135 wrote:

Kiwigolfer wrote:Wow Burndog wanted to find out who's still around from GR and it turns into a US political thread that Larryrsf would have been proud of.

I'm still playing and with summer here getting out and about more.

Suffice to say the majority of us down under were shocked by Trumps win and we watch with bated breath like watching a car crash unfold before your eyes.

Played the last round Nov 15th.  Next day a blizzard hit.  No more golf till spring.

Being from the state who elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura governer, not new to see somebody that is not a career politician be the chief for awhile.  After its all said and done ain't a fuckin thing gonna change.

LOL probably right JT. Hope the winter is not too long for you.

jt1135 wrote: After its all said and done ain't a fuckin thing gonna change.

I hope that you're right, jt, but there's no reason for that much optimism. Trump isn't appointing a cabinet. He's appointing a gestapo.
We're about to witness and experience human misery as we've never seen in our lifetimes.

I still play... I play a lot more consistent this year. My 13* TM Jetspeed is adjusted to 11.5* and it serves me extremely well, I don't even carry 7i .... my driver, 3W, 5W, 17*gaybrid, 19*gaybrid, 22*gaybrid and 25*gaybrid would take me to where my 8i-60*wedge would take over and I score much better that way... Just bought a golf net for a permanent set up in my garage, great for practice durỉng cold seasons and rain outside
Enjoy your holidays , Guys, Girls, AC-DC

Adolf Hitler was elevated to the Chancellorship of German on January 30, 1933, and a true Germany couldn't even begin the process of recovering until October 3, 1990. Almost six decades!

America's Chancellor Trump is immeasurably more stupid than the monster Hitler. The damage that he will doubtlessly do will take at least a century to repair--if it can be repaired at all. The odds of his permanently taking down our republic can be no worse than even money at this sorrowful point in time.

It was one thing to have a Paul Ryan House and a Mitch McConnell Senate with President Obama in the Oval Office. All the former two miscreants could do was prevent any good. Obama prevented them from doing serious harm.

A Ryan/McConnell/Trump government is on the precipice of generating a level of human misery that America, for all of its sketchy history, has never seen to date. We're looking at nothing less than Mad Max. I don't have to argue with the skeptical. They'll see soon enough. And all of them won't survive. We can only hope that America itself somehow survives. I say---even money. And those are sucky odds on which to base a prayer.

Amazingly, still here... still hitting balls, haven't played a round in a while... but I"m just another yank...

And I"ll step up and ring the other bell... goodbye Obama, thank God... Trump was not my pick in the primary but I have my doubts anyone else could have beaten Hillary, so I'll take Trump...

And I remember well all the people predicting labor camps and mass graves when Obama, the leftist-statist-socialist, took power... he's gone now, and no labor camps and no mass graves... so I'll take Trump and I'll endure the cries of fascism for a few years...

I have to point out, though, that fascism comes from leftism. It is therefore far more likely to come from a left wing administration. Just saying. Obama didn't manage to take control and toss the constitution out the window. Pretty sure Trump won't do that.

He will do a lot that I won't like, but he at least does not declare himself to be my enemy daily. That will be a bit of a relief.

Hope my golf course doesn't freeze and need a year to recover.

Onward, comrades!

Big Dave
Houston

I can't play anymore.  Spinal stenosis.
OK, with that out of the way, let's get to the real point of the thread.

The era of legitimate government in the United States has come to an end. The Russians have installed their puppet.  Not the Soviet Union, whose socialism may have actually been, in some areas, at least, an improvement.  No, it's the new, Fascist Russia.  We live under fascism now.

What we need desperately is a left-leaning rogue general to rescue us. America needs her Fidel, and she needs him now.

There's nothing to lose.  The republic has already been taken down.  Bernie was its last hope.

At the very least, we should consider partition.  New York, New England, and the West Coast cannot live under the same government as Texas and Kansas.  We don't share any values whatsoever.  None.  As it exists today, half of the United States will always be enraged.  The factions are now way too far apart to be regarded as mere political opponents.  We are now ideological enemies.

Let's stop being so many Pollyannas and face reality.  Things cannot remain as they are now.

Watched the live coverage on my work computer while eating a modest lunch in the office. The chopper lifted off headed for "Joint Base Andrews" which is what the former fig administration re-badged Andrews AFB. I was reminded by a sentence uttered by someone famous--maybe Edward G. Robinson or Charleton Heston-- "The jig is up." Now back to reality.

A few suggestions for the new capo di tutti capi:

Public service announcement on radio and TV with the simple message "If you have a dick you are not a chick."

A new federal program to combat illegal drug dealing, use and addition. If your drug of choice is marijuana, you will be air-dropped into Mexico, the largest pot supplier. If its smack, enjoy your free-fall into Afghan airspace. Coke, Colombia.

Program to deal with Islamic extremism: all Korans found will be confiscated and recycled into Bibles.

In the inner cities and many suburbs, males wearing their dungerhauls with the tops pulled down over their butt cheeks exposing the skivvies will be shot with tranquilizer darts and carted off to Sartorial Education camps.

If you drive a car with windows so tinted that they are opaque, expect that police performing a stop will first need to remove some of the tint in order to see what's inside. Probably do it with either .39 or 9 mm tint removers or maybe double-ought.

I'm sure there's lots more, but this is just a preliminary list. For right here and right now.

Gonna go try to play 18 tomorrow. No rain forecast and the temp should be about 50F. Will be soggy so no carry. Have to crank the loft up on the old adjustable, throw a heavy weight in the middle and put in my weakest shaft. And take one more club on approaches. Peace.

trombettista_vecchio wrote:I can't play anymore.  Spinal stenosis.
OK, with that out of the way, let's get to the real point of the thread.

The era of legitimate government in the United States has come to an end. The Russians have installed their puppet.  Not the Soviet Union, whose socialism may have actually been, in some areas, at least, an improvement.  No, it's the new, Fascist Russia.  We live under fascism now.

What we need desperately is a left-leaning rogue general to rescue us. America needs her Fidel, and she needs him now.

There's nothing to lose.  The republic has already been taken down.  Bernie was its last hope.

At the very least, we should consider partition.  New York, New England, and the West Coast cannot live under the same government as Texas and Kansas.  We don't share any values whatsoever.  None.  As it exists today, half of the United States will always be enraged.  The factions are now way too far apart to be regarded as mere political opponents.  We are now ideological enemies.

Let's stop being so many Pollyannas and face reality.  Things cannot remain as they are now.

trollio vecchio... :-)

Big Dave wrote:
trollio vecchio... :-)

Fair enough, Dave, although your Italian is understandably made up. You are from Texas, right? My lasagna is a lot better than my chili, although I do try from time to time. Actually, Chili probably isn't an Eastern Texas thing. Houston's more deep south than southwest--Atlanta with energy companies.

But remember, trolling in the cause of civilizing this regressive and broken nation is no vice.
But staying quiet certainly is...not when one feels as strongly about it as I do.

Peace. Nothing personal. Every fence has somebody on both sides.