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    Post  Pky6471 Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:14 pm

    A.Scott made too many clutch putts... he earned this Masters
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    Post  Player Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:08 am

    Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.
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    Post  Pky6471 Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:01 am

    Player wrote:Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.

    In golf I don't believe we look back and play the what-ifs game... Tiger's record has been 0/43 when he's behind on Sunday at ALL majors. For his good name, IMO he SHOULD disqualify himself, now more Pros are questioning his honesty and the special treatment he got, just like Lindsay Lohan not going to jail breaking all the rules... I like Tiger, God give him special skills, more so than other Pros, but he should reject any special treatments

    I am surprised it took Adam Scott that long to get his first Masters, I think more would come after this
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    Post  rooteen Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:40 am

    Player wrote:Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.

    After watching the repeat, Tiger's problem is still his driver. Every time he has to force the issue, he loses the shot right. And along with Sneds he was the slowest to react to the slower greens. Both Scott and Cabrera missed their share, but it was mainly to tap in distance. Not so with Tiger.
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    Post  Mongrel Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:34 am

    Congratulations to all you Aussies who love golf. And you Kiwis, too. What is this, the fourth or fifth Kiwi Green Jacket? And a hearty Mongrel shout-out to Titleist. Its been a long time for them at Augusta. I thought it was going to be two in a row for Ping.
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    Post  Pky6471 Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:50 am

    Mongrel wrote:Congratulations to all you Aussies who love golf. And you Kiwis, too. What is this, the fourth or fifth Kiwi Green Jacket? And a hearty Mongrel shout-out to Titleist. Its been a long time for them at Augusta. I thought it was going to be two in a row for Ping.

    Man,,, that old man gave it a good run and he showed his class when he hugged Scott. When he has earned his way it's quite different than those who grow up with money and opportunities
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    Post  Player Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:13 pm

    Cabrera played great, but it would have been a travesty if a guy who snuck in through the back door on a past winner invite won a major. He had no business teeing up based on recent form. That right there is the reason the masters is considered by most experts to be the weakest major.
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    Post  FamousDavis Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:53 pm

    Pky6471 wrote:
    Player wrote:Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.

    In golf I don't believe we look back and play the what-ifs game... Tiger's record has been 0/43 when he's behind on Sunday at ALL majors. For his good name, IMO he SHOULD disqualify himself, now more Pros are questioning his honesty and the special treatment he got, just like Lindsay Lohan not going to jail breaking all the rules... I like Tiger, God give him special skills, more so than other Pros, but he should reject any special treatments

    I am surprised it took Adam Scott that long to get his first Masters, I think more would come after this

    PK, Tiger wouldn't have been behind if the ball hadn't struck the flag. He was in the lead at that point.

    As far as other pros questioning his honesty, where are you getting this information? Every interview I saw on TV had the pro saying that Tiger did not do anything intentionally. The committee handed down its ruling but I guess you think Tiger should go against the Committee and make his own set of rules, withdraw from the tournament, all for the sake of making himself out to be a martyr. Man, what a f#cked up world we live in.

    So, let me get this straight. If Tiger had DQ'd himself, you would have had more respect for him?

    So if you were playing in an invitational at your country club and the same exact events happened to you that happened to Tiger, and your committee gave you a 2 stroke penalty but allowed you to continue playing, you would have told the committee to go to hell and that you've chosen to DQ yourself? Yeah right. Pull this other leg and it plays Jingle Bells.
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    Post  FamousDavis Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:56 pm

    Player wrote:Cabrera played great, but it would have been a travesty if a guy who snuck in through the back door on a past winner invite won a major. He had no business teeing up based on recent form. That right there is the reason the masters is considered by most experts to be the weakest major.

    Cabrera looks like he's 53 rather than 43. Also, why can't the guy learn how to speak a little English so the next time he gets into a Masters playoff he can say more than "be quiet!!" and "3 Palmento sandwiches por favor".
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    Post  Pky6471 Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm

    FamousDavis wrote:
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    Player wrote:Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.

    In golf I don't believe we look back and play the what-ifs game... Tiger's record has been 0/43 when he's behind on Sunday at ALL majors. For his good name, IMO he SHOULD disqualify himself, now more Pros are questioning his honesty and the special treatment he got, just like Lindsay Lohan not going to jail breaking all the rules... I like Tiger, God give him special skills, more so than other Pros, but he should reject any special treatments

    I am surprised it took Adam Scott that long to get his first Masters, I think more would come after this



    So, let me get this straight. If Tiger had DQ'd himself, you would have had more respect for him?


    FD... absolutely YES... How could you not respect someone who does the "right thing" instead of "thing right"?
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    Post  Poe4soul Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:27 am

    FamousDavis wrote:
    Player wrote:Cabrera played great, but it would have been a travesty if a guy who snuck in through the back door on a past winner invite won a major. He had no business teeing up based on recent form. That right there is the reason the masters is considered by most experts to be the weakest major.

    Cabrera looks like he's 53 rather than 43. Also, why can't the guy learn how to speak a little English so the next time he gets into a Masters playoff he can say more than "be quiet!!" and "3 Palmento sandwiches por favor".

    I like the idea of a foreigner that speaks Spanish taking the tournament and those crackers money. I like the fact Cabrera doesn't kiss their arses. I love how he plays the game. No practice swings, no bullshit, he just plays the game like it was a normal Sunday match with his friends. Hell, I've seen him belly a 6" putt with his wedge.
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    Post  Fluffy Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:15 am

    Pky6471 wrote:
    FamousDavis wrote:
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    Player wrote:Him and the field got a huge break when tiger hit that flag on Friday. I honestly believe tiger was unstoppable until that shot. The 4 shots it cost him was how far he finished from the lead, but he would have gone way lower without that ruining his momentum. Tiger is a front runner and being forced to make up 4 shots was always going to be tough.

    Scott has made hay but he is a deserved winner and probably the most feelgood major champion since leftys first slam.

    In golf I don't believe we look back and play the what-ifs game... Tiger's record has been 0/43 when he's behind on Sunday at ALL majors. For his good name, IMO he SHOULD disqualify himself, now more Pros are questioning his honesty and the special treatment he got, just like Lindsay Lohan not going to jail breaking all the rules... I like Tiger, God give him special skills, more so than other Pros, but he should reject any special treatments

    I am surprised it took Adam Scott that long to get his first Masters, I think more would come after this



    So, let me get this straight. If Tiger had DQ'd himself, you would have had more respect for him?


    FD... absolutely YES... How could you not respect someone who does the "right thing" instead of "thing right"?


    No no no...wait. The comittee is responsible for the rules in that tournament. What they say goes. If they say you can play out of bounce you can play out of bounce...
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    Post  Pky6471 Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:52 am

    Fluffy wrote:

    No no no...wait. The comittee is responsible for the rules in that tournament. What they say goes. If they say you can play out of bounce you can play out of bounce...

    IMO, everyone knew that the committee had a different agenda , called "American Greed" ... they are more concerned about the "rating", sponsorship by CBS and other companies ... rather than doing the "right thing". Yes, America, twe are a whole bunch of ass kissers just like everywhere else in the world disappointed
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    Post  Olderplayer Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:54 am

    Thanks PKY. Yes all of us golf nuts and sports nuts in general, in fact just about all Aussies are absolutely rapt about Scott's stunning victory. Not before time I suppose. It seemed when Angel hit it close on 18 that the golfing gods were going to rob us again. Two clutch putts were made by Scott. I guess it justifies his decision to go with the broomstick.
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    Post  Kiwigolfer Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:52 pm

    Olderplayer wrote:Thanks PKY. Yes all of us golf nuts and sports nuts in general, in fact just about all Aussies are absolutely rapt about Scott's stunning victory. Not before time I suppose. It seemed when Angel hit it close on 18 that the golfing gods were going to rob us again. Two clutch putts were made by Scott. I guess it justifies his decision to go with the broomstick.

    Hey OP don't forget us Kiwis. You can't overlook Stevies part in this great ANZAC Victory! Very Happy
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    Post  Player Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:06 pm

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    Olderplayer wrote:Thanks PKY. Yes all of us golf nuts and sports nuts in general, in fact just about all Aussies are absolutely rapt about Scott's stunning victory. Not before time I suppose. It seemed when Angel hit it close on 18 that the golfing gods were going to rob us again. Two clutch putts were made by Scott. I guess it justifies his decision to go with the broomstick.

    Hey OP don't forget us Kiwis. You can't overlook Stevies part in this great ANZAC Victory! Very Happy
    I know we all like to joke about Stevie and his huge ego, but in all seriousness without him Scott probably doesnt win. Scott was emotionallyspent after the putt on 72nd hole, in days gone by he would have been disheartened by Cabreras reply and would have choked in the play off. Stevie did a great job getting his man back up for the playoff, not to mention taking control with the read on that last putt. Scott and Cabrera produced the highest quality playoff I can recall, no sprayed drives or chunked approaches or yipped putts, Scott won it with great shots.

    There is no doubt Scotts game has gone to another level since getting Stevie on the bag. Stevie has provided the last piece to the puzzle for Scott, that hard nosed competitive winning attitude Scott has always lacked. I see many more majors for this team.
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    Post  rooteen Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:33 pm

    Think Scott's scheduling has helped big time too. Not playing as many tourneys, more quality practice time keeps him fresher and seems to be working. Bit like what Tiger has been doing for years. Peaking at the right time.
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    Post  FamousDavis Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:38 pm

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    Olderplayer wrote:Thanks PKY. Yes all of us golf nuts and sports nuts in general, in fact just about all Aussies are absolutely rapt about Scott's stunning victory. Not before time I suppose. It seemed when Angel hit it close on 18 that the golfing gods were going to rob us again. Two clutch putts were made by Scott. I guess it justifies his decision to go with the broomstick.

    Hey OP don't forget us Kiwis. You can't overlook Stevies part in this great ANZAC Victory! Very Happy
    I know we all like to joke about Stevie and his huge ego, but in all seriousness without him Scott probably doesnt win. Scott was emotionallyspent after the putt on 72nd hole, in days gone by he would have been disheartened by Cabreras reply and would have choked in the play off. Stevie did a great job getting his man back up for the playoff, not to mention taking control with the read on that last putt. Scott and Cabrera produced the highest quality playoff I can recall, no sprayed drives or chunked approaches or yipped putts, Scott won it with great shots.

    There is no doubt Scotts game has gone to another level since getting Stevie on the bag. Stevie has provided the last piece to the puzzle for Scott, that hard nosed competitive winning attitude Scott has always lacked. I see many more majors for this team.

    I don't think most of us are joking about it. Stevie doesn't have to hit a shot to make a huge difference in the outcome. A couple of reads here and there, getting his player to focus and encouraging him when things go bad. A good caddy is priceless.

    There is no question in my mind that Stevie impacted the outcome of the playoff. No, he didn't hit the shots but he absolutely read that last putt correctly. I read an article today with Scott saying that he thought the last putt was right to left and one cup outside the hole. Stevie told him "No, it is a full two cups to the right of the hole and I'm positive that I'm right". Adam did what he was told and sunk the putt. It's much easier to do what you are told rather than figure it all out for yourself...especially from a caddy who has 13 majors under his belt (but nothing under his caddy outfit).
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    Post  12pierogi Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:53 pm

    Probably a 10'million dollar difference that putt.
    Cabrera is a gracious man.
    He doesn't miss.
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    Post  Player Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:00 am

    Stevie was always going to be remembered as a great looper, but I think after this win he will rightfully be known as the tiger woodsof caddies, the best that ever was. People always said anyone could caddy tigerto a major, but Stevie has shown that he is as clutch a caddy as tiger is a golfer, but more than that he is a winner. You could see how pissed he was when Scott cost him the Open last year, he made sure he stepped in this time to avoid another major being thrown away by Scott. Stevie just refuses to lose.
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    Post  FamousDavis Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:36 am

    Player wrote:Stevie was always going to be remembered as a great looper, but I think after this win he will rightfully be known as the tiger woodsof caddies, the best that ever was. People always said anyone could caddy tigerto a major, but Stevie has shown that he is as clutch a caddy as tiger is a golfer, but more than that he is a winner. You could see how pissed he was when Scott cost him the Open last year, he made sure he stepped in this time to avoid another major being thrown away by Scott. Stevie just refuses to lose.

    I think they should have a separate Butler Cabin-style ceremony for the winning caddy, last year's winning caddy and the low score amateur caddy. Maybe they could have it at the Augusta caddy barn next to the gumball machine. Instead of a green jacket they give you some green coveralls and a leftover pimento cheese sandwich.

    Of course, all of that would have been preceded by the champions caddy dinner - a little outdoor barbecue with picnic tables and spiked punch. Gary Player's caddy would sit at the head of the table and tell stories about his wacky, self righteous boss. Fanny would do a table dance at the end.

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