Mayweather looked sharp last night.

Isn't anybody going to beat that prick?

Didn't watch it. Like you lost your yen for golf, my interest in prize fighting is about all gone.

Why is boxing so much less popular than it was 25 years ago? I remember the build-up to the Tyson-Spinks fight and paying $40 for pay per view. The second fight was Tommy Morrison (the guy who played Tommy Gun in Rocky V)and I believe he won the fight. It took forever to get to the main event and it was over in a minute and 13 seconds with Tyson hitting a body shot to Spinks and him taking a dive. Spinks didn't even wait for a head shot before he caved. That was the beginning of the end of me watching boxing, much less paying for it. I think Don King had a lot to do with boxing's demise.

The best fight I ever saw was Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Marvin Haggler. That was an epic fight and had a controversial decision. Most people felt that Haggler had won the fight. It was close for sure.

I'm sure Ultimate Fighting has played a role. The only ultimate fighting I've seen were the early ones with Royce Gracie. No time limits which meant plenty of time to wear you opponent out through grappling and choke holds. Jim Brown was one of the announcers. Now THAT was funny.

Probably for similar reasons that some of us don't watch a lot of PGA tournaments. Most of the boxers are just in the ring to survive all the rounds and maybe get a decision and get paid afterwards. Like the golf pros who have it in their minds that they can't win but if they practice safe course management they can finish in the top 20, 10, 5 or wherever and make a nice check. Hell, if you're a PGA touring pro, you never have to win an event and can still become a multi-millionaire. The only events you miss out on are that silly thing 3,000 miles west of LA out on an island that resembles Florida with topography.

The reason I watched every prize fight on TV in the early to mid '90's was to see guys like Tyson and the lighter guys like Kostya Tszu, Prince Hameed, Jab Judah and others who went for the kill shots early and often.

I used to love boxing when I was a kid, and even as a young adult, I would go to certain bars to watch big fights with other fight fans, but that has all pretty much stopped. I think boxing was already on the way out, but it hasn't helped that the heavyweight division has been a dud for a decade. If there was a charismatic American (sorry RoW, but that's what it would take here in the states) heavyweight, some good competition, and people willing to make fights, maybe boxing could gain some traction.
Most casual fans think it's a crooked sport. I sure do, after watching a 50+ year old George Foreman work over some younger guy and get screwed on the cards.

FamousDavis wrote:Why is boxing so much less popular than it was 25 years ago? I remember the build-up to the Tyson-Spinks fight and paying $40 for pay per view. The second fight was Tommy Morrison (the guy who played Tommy Gun in Rocky V)and I believe he won the fight. It took forever to get to the main event and it was over in a minute and 13 seconds with Tyson hitting a body shot to Spinks and him taking a dive. Spinks didn't even wait for a head shot before he caved. That was the beginning of the end of me watching boxing, much less paying for it. I think Don King had a lot to do with boxing's demise.

The best fight I ever saw was Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Marvin Haggler. That was an epic fight and had a controversial decision. Most people felt that Haggler had won the fight. It was close for sure.

I'm sure Ultimate Fighting has played a role. The only ultimate fighting I've seen were the early ones with Royce Gracie. No time limits which meant plenty of time to wear you opponent out through grappling and choke holds. Jim Brown was one of the announcers. Now THAT was funny.

That fight is one of the worst I have seen because I was a big fan of Hagler and was gutted when he lost. But I thought the decision was fair. Sugar Ray boxed Marvin's ears off that night.

The best fight I have ever seen was two years earlier. Marvelous Marvin Hagler's three round war with Thomas Hitman Hearns. To this day I could watch replays of that fight over and over and not get bored. I stayed home from school to watch that fight.

What a great era of boxing that was. Following the decline of Ali you had Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns and Hagler duking it out. Then when they declined Iron Mike Tyson exploded onto the scene. good times. I lost interest in boxing in the early noughties. The reign of Lennox Lewis, one of the most boring, uninspiring heavyweights of all time didn't help.

Horseballs wrote:I used to love boxing when I was a kid, and even as a young adult, I would go to certain bars to watch big fights with other fight fans, but that has all pretty much stopped. I think boxing was already on the way out, but it hasn't helped that the heavyweight division has been a dud for a decade. If there was a charismatic American (sorry RoW, but that's what it would take here in the states) heavyweight, some good competition, and people willing to make fights, maybe boxing could gain some traction.
Most casual fans think it's a crooked sport. I sure do, after watching a 50+ year old George Foreman work over some younger guy and get screwed on the cards.

So are you a convert to that gay soft porn MMA yet?

Kiwigolfer wrote:

Horseballs wrote:I used to love boxing when I was a kid, and even as a young adult, I would go to certain bars to watch big fights with other fight fans, but that has all pretty much stopped. I think boxing was already on the way out, but it hasn't helped that the heavyweight division has been a dud for a decade. If there was a charismatic American (sorry RoW, but that's what it would take here in the states) heavyweight, some good competition, and people willing to make fights, maybe boxing could gain some traction.
Most casual fans think it's a crooked sport. I sure do, after watching a 50+ year old George Foreman work over some younger guy and get screwed on the cards.

So are you a convert to that gay soft porn MMA yet?

Hell no. Dryhumping and pattycake punches is not my cuppa.

I loathe MMA, but for me, boxing came before even baseball. We got our first tv in 1949, and it wasn't much after that whan I started watching boxing with my brother and our dad. We had two major league baseball teams in Boston back then, but the main sport in our household was boxing. My brother put together a nice little amateur career at it, but I never took it beyond the gym.

By the way, boxing had more casual fans twenty-five years ago because it was still on over-the-air television. Now all world level boxing is on premium cable or pay per view, so it's mostly the die hards who'll pay for it.

As for the Klitschko brothers, I like them and wish more of their fights were on American cable tv. I would think that after years of non-factorism, white people would enjoy seeing some good white heavyweights. It's not racism to have racial pride as a minority, and that's what we white folks are in boxing.

trombettista_vecchio wrote:I loathe MMA, but for me, boxing came before even baseball. We got our first tv in 1949, and it wasn't much after that whan I started watching boxing with my brother and our dad. We had two major league baseball teams in Boston back then, but the main sport in our household was boxing. My brother put together a nice little amateur career at it, but I never took it beyond the gym.

By the way, boxing had more casual fans twenty-five years ago because it was still on over-the-air television. Now all world level boxing is on premium cable or pay per view, so it's mostly the die hards who'll pay for it.

As for the Klitschko brothers, I like them and wish more of their fights were on American cable tv. I would think that after years of non-factorism, white people would enjoy seeing some good white heavyweights. It's not racism to have racial pride as a minority, and that's what we white folks are in boxing.

Agree completely. I routinely look for white minority situations where I can overtly celebrate my white pride. Boxing is a great example because beaners and schvartzes have wrongfully kept us pure white people down. But it's ok because while they may have greater physical skills, us white people have greater mental abilities.

Go white people, crush the other races.

Always bring a gun to a fist fight.

Lorenzzo wrote:Agree completely. I routinely look for white minority situations where I can overtly celebrate my white pride. Boxing is a great example because beaners and schvartzes have wrongfully kept us pure white people down. But it's ok because while they may have greater physical skills, us white people have greater mental abilities.

Go white people, crush the other races.

This is a little bit silly. I voted for a black man in presidential elections twice.

It's strictly a sports thing. Decades went by without Europeans or Euro-Americans being a factor in the heavyweight division. Now that's changed and we're not supposed to notice?

Also, being a Sicilian-American, it's unlikely that I'm "pure" white. At least that's what Dennis Hopper said.

And that was one of the best scenes in any movie I can remember. And I know enough never to mention the name of that film to the family of my wife's Sicilian godfather. Although i doubt that he would have ever seen it.

The fact the Klitchko's are white makes me doubt their credibility and assume they aren't any good. What little I have seen they look like a pair of oversize musclebound robots.

trombettista_vecchio wrote:

Lorenzzo wrote:Agree completely. I routinely look for white minority situations where I can overtly celebrate my white pride. Boxing is a great example because beaners and schvartzes have wrongfully kept us pure white people down. But it's ok because while they may have greater physical skills, us white people have greater mental abilities.

Go white people, crush the other races.

This is a little bit silly. I voted for a black man in presidential elections twice.

It's strictly a sports thing. Decades went by without Europeans or Euro-Americans being a factor in the heavyweight division. Now that's changed and we're not supposed to notice?

Also, being a Sicilian-American, it's unlikely that I'm "pure" white. At least that's what Dennis Hopper said.

Well, let's debug the white people voting for Obama thing. It was actually a form of benevolence borne out of one part guilt, one part wanting to hang with the cool guys and one part ignorance.

As far as Sicilians not being pure white, I agree. As a pure white northern Italian I'm well aware.

[quote="Lorenzzo
Well, let's debug the white people voting for Obama thing. It was actually a form of benevolence borne out of one part guilt, one part wanting to hang with the cool guys and one part ignorance. [/quote]

As always, you have a way of being completely wrong with a pedantic, condescending, and arrogant demeanor.

I voted for O'Bama twice because I also voted for Humphrey, McGovern, Carter, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry before him. I only look at names in the Democratic Primaries because, in the general elections, I don't split tickets.

Core Republican values are repugnant to me. If we had a viable party to the left of the Democrats, I would vote for them instead. Even if they were whiter than Conan Fucking O'Brien.

This is quite different from the reasons that you pull out of your Northern Italian ass. Actually, you are a Northern Italian ass.

trombettista_vecchio wrote:[quote="Lorenzzo
Well, let's debug the white people voting for Obama thing. It was actually a form of benevolence borne out of one part guilt, one part wanting to hang with the cool guys and one part ignorance.
As always, you have a way of being completely wrong with a pedantic, condescending, and arrogant demeanor.

I voted for O'Bama twice because I also voted for Humphrey, McGovern, Carter, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry before him. I only look at names in the Democratic Primaries because, in the general elections, I don't split tickets.

Core Republican values are repugnant to me. If we had a viable party to the left of the Democrats, I would vote for them instead. Even if they were whiter than Conan Fucking O'Brien.

This is quite different from the reasons that you pull out of your Northern Italian ass. Actually, you are a Northern Italian ass.

Your massive inferiority complex once again colors your non-stop self-proclaimed "intelligence'. We've already established you aren't really white thus the references aren't pointed at you. Apparently your ridiculously inflated sense of self is a bizarre prism through which no mere human could ever hope to see. Certainly not you.

By the way, what is it about quoting text here that continues to mystify you?

[quote="Lorenzzo
Your massive inferiority complex once again colors your non-stop self-proclaimed "intelligence'. We've already established you aren't really white thus the references aren't pointed at you. Apparently your ridiculously inflated sense of self is a bizarre prism through which no mere human could ever hope to see. Certainly not you.

By the way, what is it about quoting text here that continues to mystify you?[/quote]


Massive inferiority complex.....inflated sense of self. Got it.

So the community college correspondence courses in Utah are now conferring degrees in psychiatry!
Congratulations. Did you find an Asian kid to take the online quizzes for you?

trombettista_vecchio wrote:[quote="Lorenzzo
Your massive inferiority complex once again colors your non-stop self-proclaimed "intelligence'. We've already established you aren't really white thus the references aren't pointed at you. Apparently your ridiculously inflated sense of self is a bizarre prism through which no mere human could ever hope to see. Certainly not you.

By the way, what is it about quoting text here that continues to mystify you?


Massive inferiority complex.....inflated sense of self. Got it.

So the community college correspondence courses in Utah are now conferring degrees in psychiatry!
Congratulations. Did you find an Asian kid to take the online quizzes for you?

Maybe I did you ignorant slut. I guess the only ones who remember this routine are us old guys.