Lorenzzo Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:10 pm
Poe4soul wrote: Lorenzzo wrote: trombettista_vecchio wrote:The enormous effort and lengthy work that athletes put into their games is what enables them to reach their potential, but the potential itself is an accident of birth.
You get the toolbox with which you were born and can never improve it. The athlete's job is to learn how to both use and take care of his tools, and the results will show how good his natural toolbox was.
Tiger learned how to use his incredibly generous toolbox expertly, but perhaps he didn't learn how to take care of the tools. And once they're worn or broken, there is no source of new ones. The very same thing happened to the great Oscar DeLaHoya. For him, it was tough to go running at 6AM when he awoke in silk pajamas next to some Victoria's Secret underwear model. I don't think Tiger skimped on physical fitness, but he may have chosen an unwise regimen, involving steroids or not, and permanently injured himself.
Self-indulgence Nifty?
To most peoples surprise, there is difference between being fit and being healthy. Sometimes there is an cost of one's health to be fit, especially at the pro level.
Getting away from the semantics of it… so true. As a guy in his 50s who still lifts, conditions and realizes how much things are advancing, it's sad and amusing.
I'm not a Natty because I use Creatine. But I would never use gHs. Nattys eat eggs by the truckload. I don't touch whole eggs. I do dead lifts without wrist wraps because I don't care how much I'm lifting only that it's an efficient use of my time and effort. And I like healthy wrists. Nattys would never admit to using them. And number of plates is their gauge.
I lift only twice a week because it helps avoid injury, I have a life and the benefits beyond that are slim. To be taken seriously among those who take it seriously five per week is the min. I try different routines because conditioning is far from an exact science and is evolving. But the heard slavishly sticks together and does the same thing despite a lack of data or research. If Arnold or Lou did it it's good. The way they lift almost guarantees they will be compromised before they reach my age.
Those are just a few examples of what you're talking about.
It's like anything else… 80% don't know what they're talking about. Okay maybe 99.5%. Do you know who knows state of the art? The coaches here. It's always fun to chat with them. You just never really know what substances are integrated into their approaches. Of course they'll never tell you. To avoid gHs completely is to be left behind. The athletes want to win and will take the risk. This is supposition on my part because few will talk.
My goals relate to 80% health and 20% vanity. Since health is the greater goal I'd be stupid to sacrifice health for fitness. This places me in a small minority.
Right now there is a lot of discussion about Hugh Jackman. He can single rep dead lift over 400 pounds. That's not bad for a guy who is 6'2" although not world blazing either. My lower body does fine without deadlifts which stress the body. Machine leg presses balance finess and health.
Anyways… From photos it's fairly obvious Jackman uses. There's just no other way to gain 20 pounds of lean muscle between roles. The prevailing thought is Hollywood uses more than athletes. Everyone seems to give them a pass because of the nature of their work.
Yet in this bizarre society of ours they are our greatest role models. Granted some say athletes. It sure as hell ain't smart people. I guess the take from all of this is humans are fucking weird.