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    Post  Mongrel Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:01 am

    Took my MX 25's to the clubmaker guy at the Local GG two weeks ago after I butchered one of our club's regular stops up in SE PA. I told him to check the lies and he found that they were all over the place and he bent them to about two degrees flat from Mizuno spec which is my optimum lie angle with these irons. But he also checked, without instruction, the lofts and found that all of them were at least one degree strong and more than half two to four degrees strong. So he bent them all to spec.

    So now I play this course two days ago with the club and end up shooting 13 strokes less than 20 days ago. I ended up winning the event in a field of 27 where more than 70% were under net par. Putting was not real good although I holed a 36 foot birdie putt on a par 4 that 20 days ago yielded a snowman. I think I three-putted maybe six holes and those putts were from makeable range of 20 feet or less on real speedy greens and diabolical hole locations that left you with 4-10 footers with a perfectly stroked putt. I didn't tally the GIR but think it may have been 12 or 13 which would be about my best GIR round ever.

    Oh, and the other thing I did was to reshaft my 909 DComp with a VooDoo for Titleist stiff flex that I couldn't hit good when it was in the 909D3 I bought. I didn't care if the ball didn't get more than 15 feet off the ground, I just didn't want to pull every second drive dead left into Trouble. On the third hole after the first two drives went a little left, I pulled my right foot back several inches at address which always means for me that the shot will go right and that was the ticket. No drives into trouble during the round. And consistently 10-30 yards farther than 20 days ago with the same driver head. I must be getting a whole lot more roll with the VooDoo versus the 'Ilima that was in it before.

    So thanks again the the curmudgeion clubmaker at Golf Galaxy who took it upon himself to check and adjust lofts. Damn. Everyone enjoy your vacation day and don't labor too much. Mongrel out.
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    Post  12pierogi Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:24 am

    I am going to try and get the local jokers to check the loft and lie on my newly acquired ap2 Junkers.
    They play beautifully with the soft stepped s300 shafts. I don't imagine there off much, as they go straight.
    I wish we had a golf galaxy closer, I'd be a constant nuisance.

    My buddy was creaming his mx-25 yesterday. But his 5 iron head flew off on a swing next to a pond. Couldn't help him, I didn't have my dive gear on.
    I've got the voodoo shafts in my hybrids, and couldn't ask for a better shaft for my swing.
    I'm heading to the course for a friendly foursome, and some side bets. Mainly beer money.
    Mongrel
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    Post  Mongrel Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:40 am

    There's a company called "Iron Finders" that has a great website. Your buddy can probably get a replacement club for a reasonable price from them.
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    Post  Pky6471 Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:46 pm

    Mongrel wrote:Took my MX 25's to the clubmaker guy at the Local GG two weeks ago after I butchered one of our club's regular stops up in SE PA. I told him to check the lies and he found that they were all over the place and he bent them to about two degrees flat from Mizuno spec which is my optimum lie angle with these irons. But he also checked, without instruction, the lofts and found that all of them were at least one degree strong and more than half two to four degrees strong. So he bent them all to spec.

    So now I play this course two days ago with the club and end up shooting 13 strokes less than 20 days ago. I ended up winning the event in a field of 27 where more than 70% were under net par. Putting was not real good although I holed a 36 foot birdie putt on a par 4 that 20 days ago yielded a snowman. I think I three-putted maybe six holes and those putts were from makeable range of 20 feet or less on real speedy greens and diabolical hole locations that left you with 4-10 footers with a perfectly stroked putt. I didn't tally the GIR but think it may have been 12 or 13 which would be about my best GIR round ever.

    Oh, and the other thing I did was to reshaft my 909 DComp with a VooDoo for Titleist stiff flex that I couldn't hit good when it was in the 909D3 I bought. I didn't care if the ball didn't get more than 15 feet off the ground, I just didn't want to pull every second drive dead left into Trouble. On the third hole after the first two drives went a little left, I pulled my right foot back several inches at address which always means for me that the shot will go right and that was the ticket. No drives into trouble during the round. And consistently 10-30 yards farther than 20 days ago with the same driver head. I must be getting a whole lot more roll with the VooDoo versus the 'Ilima that was in it before.

    So thanks again the the curmudgeion clubmaker at Golf Galaxy who took it upon himself to check and adjust lofts. Damn. Everyone enjoy your vacation day and don't labor too much. Mongrel out.
    We have a company golf outing this coming Friday 9/6 PM.... U give me the thinking of bagging my MX-23 instead of my Cobra S2, the problem is I have not used the MX-23 for at least 6 months and that could fukkkk me up bounce 
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    Post  Mongrel Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:36 pm

    If I were you, I would take those Mizunos to the range if it has grass tees, or, if it just has mats, go look for some decent turf to practice on. Like a municipal ball field like I do. If the Mizunos hit good and feel familiar to you, play them this Friday. If not, stick with the Cobras. Frankly, my set of Cobras has been on consignment in a golf shop for almost six months with no nibbles. I will never play with them again after playing with the MX 25's and I doubt that I will play the MX 20's again either.
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    Post  Horseballs Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:47 am

    Thanks for the reminder. I haven't had it done this year, but every time I get the lofts and lies checked, they are off spec. I remember that my 8 and 9 iron were the same measured loft on the MP32's a bunch of years ago. Funny, because I thought I just killed 9 irons.
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    Post  Pky6471 Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:56 pm

    Mongrel wrote:If I were you, I would take those Mizunos to the range if it has grass tees, or, if it just has mats, go look for some decent turf to practice on. Like a municipal ball field like I do. If the Mizunos hit good and feel familiar to you, play them this Friday. If not, stick with the Cobras. Frankly, my set of Cobras has been on consignment in a golf shop for almost six months with no nibbles. I will never play with them again after playing with the MX 25's and I doubt that I will play the MX 20's again either.
    I believe the MX-23 and MX-25 are very similar in design... In fact I eBayed a cheap set of MX-25 that came with steel shafts and I returned them because S-flex instead of R-flex. I will bring 2 sets and compare them at the range before the shotgun format starts. Thanks
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    Post  Mongrel Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:40 pm

    Although the 23 and 25 look very similar, I found that I could not play the 23's very well at all but played pretty well with the MX 20's. The MX 25's I have are a good bit better for me than the 20's and worlds better than the 23's. I think it is just about all in the sole grinds which are a bit different in the 25's when you compare them side to side. Since switching to the 25's, I have almost eliminated fat shots and the few thin shots I hit were only with the pitching wedge and those still either stayed on the green or rolled off the back just a bit.
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    Post  Pky6471 Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:23 pm

    Mongrel wrote:Although the 23 and 25 look very similar, I found that I could not play the 23's very well at all but played pretty well with the MX 20's. The MX 25's I have are a good bit better for me than the 20's and worlds better than the 23's. I think it is just about all in the sole grinds which are a bit different in the 25's when you compare them side to side. Since switching to the 25's, I have almost eliminated fat shots and the few thin shots I hit were only with the pitching wedge and those still either stayed on the green or rolled off the back just a bit.
    I took MX-23 PW to back yard and did some chipping... feel good with it, when I compare it to Cobra s2 PW, it has more offset... who knows, maybe it's better for me with MX-23. I will bring both set to the driving range on Friday before the shot gun format... Feel like I would bag MX-23 for the company open... most likely I won't win anything... Long drive contest? I don't have a freaking chance, I know couple guys can driver 275-300 yds... Closest to the pin on #14 par-3 ($5/person in that pot if we want to join), I may join but there is a 2-cap production manager who played for Naval Academy back then ... so my chance is very slim, but we will have fun
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    Post  Poe4soul Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:35 pm

    Pky6471 wrote:
    Mongrel wrote:Although the 23 and 25 look very similar, I found that I could not play the 23's very well at all but played pretty well with the MX 20's. The MX 25's I have are a good bit better for me than the 20's and worlds better than the 23's. I think it is just about all in the sole grinds which are a bit different in the 25's when you compare them side to side. Since switching to the 25's, I have almost eliminated fat shots and the few thin shots I hit were only with the pitching wedge and those still either stayed on the green or rolled off the back just a bit.
    I took MX-23 PW to back yard and did some chipping... feel good with it, when I compare it to Cobra s2 PW, it has more offset... who knows, maybe it's better for me with MX-23. I will bring both set to the driving range on Friday before the shot gun format... Feel like I would bag MX-23 for the company open... most likely I won't win anything... Long drive contest? I don't have a freaking chance, I know couple guys can driver 275-300 yds... Closest to the pin on #14 par-3 ($5/person in that pot if we want to join), I may join but there is a 2-cap production manager who played for Naval Academy back then ... so my chance is very slim, but we will have fun
    KP is up for grabs. I've had a few great shots that I thought would win the KP, one spun back and lipped out to 2 feet, but in the end there's luck involved and anyone can knock one close. Long drive is a different animal but it does have to be in the fairway...
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    Post  Pky6471 Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:56 am

    Poe4soul wrote:
    KP is up for grabs.  I've had a few great shots that I thought would win the KP, one spun back and lipped out to 2 feet, but in the end there's luck involved and anyone can knock one close.  Long drive is a different animal but it does have to be in the fairway...
    I am told they will use the Callaway handicap system for final scoring. Even though I have not played my MX-23 for 6 months, most likely I would bag that set over Cobra S2... I start from 7i so I think I would be OK, I just like the Golf Pride Tour Wrap Golf Grip on them, I think Mongrel like them as well
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    Post  Mongrel Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:46 pm

    Perhaps this tale from Yesteryear may help you in the Long Drive Contest:

    Headline: "Mongrel Wins Long Drive Contest"

    The year: 1994
    The event: The Largest Law Firm in Baltimore's Annual Golf Event
    The location: A semi-private course on the campus of a hotel/conference center in the
    southwestern suburbs of Baltimore
    The field: Approx. 60 players in 15 foursomes comprised of law firm's associates, a few of its
    partners, some of the higher-ups in regional and local banks, and a few of us who
    supplied non-legal services to the host firm's Creditors' Rights, Real Estate and Banking practices

    The format: Shotgun start scramble

    OK, now Mongrel is paired up with two of the firm's younger associates-- a dweeby guy maybe in his late 30's who might break 110 on his best day and a young woman lawyer who owned a set of clubs and wore golf shoes but maybe never played a full 18 hole round before. Or maybe even 9 consecutive holes. And the guy who was to be our fourth did not post so we were a three-some. Before we teed off, I knew we had no way of winning the event so I just sort of played each hole and rode in the second cart by myself. After some holes, we came to the Long Drive Hole. A par 4 of some 420-430 yards or so. Really didn't matter except for the tee shot. The tee was slightly elevated with the fairway and hole straight ahead. No fairway bunkers left or right. Fairway was maybe 30 yards wide but had a rather decent slope from right to left as the terrain fell naturally that way. The rough was not too bad and it had been dry for months so it wasn't that thick and the ground was hard except for the fairways where the superintendent had been watering them pretty good so there wasn't much roll. And the wind was in our face at maybe 15 mph. Certainly not ideal for pounding a long high boomer.

    So I let my partners bunt their toodlers 50 and 130 yards (female and male respectively) and I pulled out the old TopFlite Heat driver, teed up my Ultra and took some time to survey the situation. The portable long drive sign on wooden stake had moved pretty fair out in the center of the fairway. Looked like at least 270-290 from the tee. Now I was never real long or even sneaky long and at the time, I could carry this driver maybe 230 on a solid strike but the trajectory would be pretty low and get a decent amount of run. So I looked at the sign, considered the topo and the conditions of the fairway (soggy) and the rough (dry and fast) and then spied a small knoll in the right rough maybe ten yards right of the right edge of the fairway that looked to start around 210 out with a 30-40 yard long plateau and a little voice inside my head (I call it my Little Lee after my pro mentor Trevino) said "Hit that knoll on the fly with a low trajectory and the ball will take a big bounce and the ball will go scooting down the far side of the knoll and roll left with the slope onto the fairway and end up in the middle of it. So that's what I did. A cruise missile of a drive that landed dead center on the top of that knoll and careened straight ahead for maybe 30 yards and then rolled right into the center of the fairway maybe two yards ahead of the long drive sign. The distance was 285. The runner up was at 283. But the story's not quite over.

    Back in that era, the baddest piece of golf equipment was the newest Big Bertha driver that retailed for about five hundred bucks. All the Country Club Swells had them and the Wannabe Swells would also max out the credit cards for one of them. Now the Swell lawyer that I beat out was mightily pissed when, at the cocktail hour, he found out that someone had passed him on the long drive hole. You see, the Big Bertha was a really good driver that enabled users to hit high towering shots that lesser mortal drivers could not. But with the wind in our faces and the lack of fairway roll, that guy's drive probably only rolled a yard or two from where he carried it whereas my drive carried maybe 230 and bounced and rolled its merry way to the middle of the fairway for another 55 yards.

    The prize: One dozen Slazenger golf balls. (back when they were among the better balls to play)


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